View Poll Results: Open up Hard Core World to the public?

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    7 38.89%
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    11 61.11%
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  1. #11
    I think having a lobby would be a great idea

  2. #12
    The only real concern I have with it is that, as J said, the amount of towns on the server will most likely sky-rocket. Which is usually fine, but when they're all concentrated around spawn (which they most likely will be, as evident on previous worlds, as well as HC's lack of teleportation), that's when its a problem for HC. These towns and their residents will just completely annihilate any of the resources around spawn.

    It's not a problem in any way for already established players, but newly joined players will be hard-pressed to find resources in that area, and will have to walk a fair distance to get at relatively untouched land. I suppose that just adds another level of challenge for the willing player, but yeah, it may become a problem. I also suppose knowing who's going to be playing on the server is a nice luxury that the white-list provides. Helps keep track of people. :P

  3. #13
    What about adding a timer for players who join the HC server?
    Something like: they have to have logged 72 hours before they are allowed to create a town of their own?

    This would also require some sort of process to allow newbies to join a town in HC pretty soon. We could setup a server town that all people in HC join automatically and have several plots there up for sale with a rule that new players may claim 1 plot or something like that. Just to get them started before they join another town or start their own.

  4. #14
    Allowing people to go between worlds would be good, so if one day you feel like doing it hc, and others you may not. This would make the community tighter since you can travel between them, they wouldn't be split in that regards.
    I dont think HC will get flooded with the change, someone may try it, but unless you really like it wont stay long.
    Especially since they can switch back.
    A timer would be good if it's not to difficult to do.
    Even with out it, sure, spawn may have a bunch of towns around it, and will make it hard if people choose to stay close to spawn, that's hard core , so far most people in hc are a bit away from spawn, don't think many will go to far away from spawn that don't like hc.
    I think it would be easier on the staff, though an admin would probable have to answer that.
    Last edited by Rainnmannx; 13th April 2015 at 20:50.

  5. #15
    I voted yes, but only if the HC world borders are expanded. I will agree with the earlier sentiment that splitting the community can be bad here.

    If you can really implement a timer so a person couldn't create a new town after a few days then I think that will really help with the spawn area being crowded/stripped of resources. There are many people who seem to join the server and once they die, they leave and never come back. This would at least prevent these people from leaving 1-man towns everywhere.

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Osifron View Post
    I voted yes, but only if the HC world borders are expanded. I will agree with the earlier sentiment that splitting the community can be bad here.

    If you can really implement a timer so a person couldn't create a new town after a few days then I think that will really help with the spawn area being crowded/stripped of resources. There are many people who seem to join the server and once they die, they leave and never come back. This would at least prevent these people from leaving 1-man towns everywhere.
    Generally, our rules are in place to prevent griefing and theft no matter how long it has been. But HC is a special case, and if 1 man towns become an issue we can always activate Towny's purge option that will remove all inactive residents/towns after, let's say, 30 days of inactivity. Of course in order for that sort of option to be successful we would have to say it's okay to take things that are unprotected which opens up a new set of doors we closed on most of our servers. But on paper, this is something that we can do.

    In regards to the world border, we can always expand the border if needed. The thing is, with a game style like HC without teleports, not many people have gotten that far. Granted it's a whitelisted world so unwhitelisting it would unleash the gates of players into it, but I still don't think the border would be an issue for a very long time. HC world is nearly as big as the last B78 server was. If I remember correctly, it was 35-40k x 35-40k and HC is 30k x 30k. To put it in perspective, on the last server with 10k unique players on the server, we couldn't even boast 50% usage of the world and its resources, that would be an overestimation. And that's with teleports of course.

  7. #17
    I actually voted "No" because to be able to whitelist, you need to register to this forum. This makes people aware that there is a HD site with multiple server topics. It also keeps away the more impulsive players that join for a few minecraft days and then never come back again, leaving their claimed ground to rot for a server's lifetime (a concern shared by Pernix but solvable as Jiro stated).

    On the other hand, I kinda like RX's idea (which would be a no-whitelist case):

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainnmannx View Post
    Allowing people to go between worlds would be good, so if one day you feel like doing it hc, and others you may not. This would make the community tighter since you can travel between them, they wouldn't be split in that regards.
    I must say I've been wanting to visit towns in the regular world just to see them, but I can't because I'm in HC. Seeing as inventory wouldn't carry over between worlds nor would teleports, I actually like his idea.
    It's also evident that removing the "obstacle" that is a whitelist application would encourage more players to do HC which would no doubt be good for activity.

    So yeah ... yes or no, I don't really know. I hate choosing
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  8. #18
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    My "YeS" voting had been an example of an impulsive selfish action
    It was interesting to see how people started a mass migration to HC world, even without much TFC/HD experience, so I was interested to see how the situation would be when no application is needed. Will ghost towns become a problem, will the type of coming people change significantly, etc. Since I don't plan to join HC soon ...
    Last edited by Heptagon_ru; 17th April 2015 at 18:19.

  9. #19
    Votes are in:
    Yes - 7
    No - 8

    I would like to thank everyone that voted and took the time to write up their feelings on the matter. Since there wasn't a decisive consensus on the subject I think it would be best to keep the white-list in effect. We can always debate the matter further or re-examine the proposal at a later date.

    So for now, HC will remain white-list only. After the server migration HC members will be allowed to play the regular world and HC world. Stay tuned for news on the Lobby server and HC server migration, it should be happening soon.

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